Review Shilen Vs Criterion Savage Prefit 65 Creedmoor Barrel

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Custom Build Burglarize #696156
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Then Im wanting to get a custom built rifle, something that I can really stretch out in some ag fields but not necessarily a 1000yd bench gun. My question of the bat is I have 2 actions on hand that I've considered building off of. 1) a Cruel 110 in 270 that I desire to build into a six.5-284 ii) a Rem 700 in 7mag that I'd crash-land up to a 7mm STW three) Sell both and come with another activeness if so what (both are older and together maybe but worth 600). Those are the calibers I want and my listen is made as far equally thats concerned.


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y'all can build a fell 110 your self if you want. all yous need is a barrell wrench and a set of become, no-go gauges, and buy a threaded pre-fit 6.5x284 shilen barrel. many places sell shilen and douglas prefit barrels. sharpshooter supply and shilen should take barrels in stock. practice a internet search on savage prefit barrels, man people sell them . savage head spaces off the commodities caput. you can set upwards a savage barrel with a slice of virgin brass,i have done it before only i dont recommend it if you lot havent washed it before. rem 700 7mm and 7mm stw both have a .532 commodities head face so merely buy a reamer and selection a skilful gun smith and you will be set.


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Get the 110 reamed out to .270STW, stick the BA in a McMillan or B&C stock. I'thousand getting 3650 with 85gr of RL25 and a 130gr Berger hybrid.

.270STW, .270WeatherbyMag, .270Win



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Re: Custom Build Rifle [Re: 1bamashooter] #696370
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Get the 110 reamed out to .270STW, stick the BA in a McMillan or B&C stock. I'm getting 3650 with 85gr of RL25 and a 130gr Berger hybrid.

.270STW, .270WeatherbyMag, .270Win

wont the action for the 270win be too brusk for the magnum stw.. I was nether the impression long action and long magnum were different.


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long activity is a long action, the just differnce is usally the magizine well. for example savage 270 long activity is no different than savage 7mm magazine, you lot might take to change the spring follower to make it feed. another thing to think virtually is if you only ream information technology ou to 270 stw you will have to change bolt faces. 270 win is a 473 bolt face up the 270 stw is a 532 bolt face. this is not realey a big deal. savage has a floating bolt head, that can exist hands change out in minutes. midwayusa sells them, i think and so does sharpshooter supply. just something to think about hope this helps.


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And then Im wanting to go a custom congenital rifle, something that I can really stretch out in some ag fields but not necessarily a 1000yd bench gun. My question of the bat is I have 2 deportment on paw that I've considered edifice off of. 1) a Vicious 110 in 270 that I desire to build into a 6.5-284 2) a Rem 700 in 7mag that I'd bump up to a 7mm STW 3) Sell both and come upward with another action if so what (both are older and together maybe only worth 600). Those are the calibers I desire and my mind is fabricated every bit far as thats concerned.

What's wrong with the rifles you take?



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He wants to built a custom rifle . Whats wrong with that? i of the calibers he has is a 270. he said he wants to catechumen it 2 a half dozen.5x284, which will be flater shooting than a 270.


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So Im wanting to become a custom built rifle, something that I can really stretch out in some ag fields but not necessarily a 1000yd bench gun. My question of the bat is I have 2 actions on mitt that I've considered edifice off of. 1) a Savage 110 in 270 that I want to build into a 6.v-284 2) a Rem 700 in 7mag that I'd bump up to a 7mm STW iii) Sell both and come up with some other action if so what (both are older and together maybe only worth 600). Those are the calibers I want and my mind is made every bit far as thats concerned.

What'southward wrong with the rifles you lot have?

Well I already have a nicer newer seven mag and the savage is in rough shape as far equally the stock and barrel go. Figured I'd become rid of 2 beaters and become a custom that I've ever wanted.

Every bit far equally reaming out for a 270stw like I merely said the barrel is in rough shape so any I do will have a new barrel.


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He wants to congenital a custom rifle . Whats incorrect with that? one of the calibers he has is a 270. he said he wants to convert it 2 a 6.5x284, which will be flater shooting than a 270.

I didn't say nothing was incorrect with information technology. I was just curious cause it seemed like what he was looking for, altitude wise, he already had covered. I've got a custom rifle, as well.



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What'southward going to be the differences in ownership a prefitted barrel versus having one made other than waiting for 6 months. If the prefit butt is the contour and everything I want is there any reason to go custom? Is at that place large differences in quality of barrels?


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with a pre-fit barrel, you put it on the gun your self. information technology is a fairly simple operation for a brutal, you need a go gauge and a no-get gauge. you will have to buy an action wrench from sharpshooter supply, brownells or midway.put it in a activeness vise. if you are conscientious you tin can employ a regular vice with to pieices of wood. spiral of the barrel, replace the recoil lug, screw the barrel on , cheque the head spaceing with the no-go gage , go approximate, and adjust the butt either in or out till information technology just barely closes on the go gauge. y'all can use a peice of virgin brass , but i wouldnt recommend it unless you are experieced in changing savage barrells.


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I guess the main thing is will I exist compromising quality and accurateness by buying a cheaper pre-fit.. I actually think I'one thousand going to get with a 280 Ackley and I institute an ER Shaw prefit. Is this something I should stay away from and merely for out the money for a another company.


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If you are wanting a odd caliber, I'd suggest a Douglas Premium Barrel in the Rem 700 action (Cerakote the action if necessary). #7 Douglas Varmit Profile. McMillan Remington Varmit stock ( new model which pairs nicely with that profile). Either a Timney (best $$ value) or Jewell trigger.

Then throw in the cost of bedding the activeness, perhaps get a fluted bolt, etc.... you aren't washed all the same.

In the end... That would make a really overnice edible bean field gun.

If you are non really in love with an odd caliber (i.e. six.5x284, .280 Ackley, etc.)... And so here is my communication....

Sell them both and become a Sendero or other heavy barrel rifle + become a trigger job... and adjacent time yous are at the range inquire the guy next to you which "expert" of the week congenital his fancy rifle as you keep to out shoot it.

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My draw to the custom build is the odd caliber. Every bit amateur equally it may seem I cannot deny. I do yet love the sendero and essentially is what I'm trying to accomplish in the build. I don't desire to become the absolute cheapest route and have an expensive POS but I tin't afford to drib 5k in a gun before eyes either.


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you lot volition not compromise accuracy from a good pre-fit savage shilen or criterion barrel. wartiger have yous ever heard of the hardrock shooting matches in opilka? i had a brutal with a pre-fit shilen butt and took 3rd place at difficult rock on two different occassions. correct now jim biggs of northlander shooting supply has i shilen, and 1 crierion in 280 . crterion is the button rifle devision of krieger. like a siter company. jim is a actually expert guy and tin hook y'all up on a barrell. 1-763-682-4296, northland shooting supply. dont go to hung upward on what some people say virtually expensive action bedding. i have beded lots of savages with blackness accura glass. if you tin read instructions and mix up 2 things together y'all will be fine. colonnade bedding is also very easy to do. its merely marine grade devcon, if you can follow instructons you will exist fine. never understood why some people volition pay a gunsmith for this it not really that hard to do. sharpshooter supply and brownells also sell a savage trigger that can be fix as light every bit a jewell trigger and fells much better than a timminey for virtually 100 bucks


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i had a savage with a pre-fit shilen barrel and took 3rd place at difficult rock on two different occassions.

He got beat by some old guy that just happened by and pulled a 7400 Rem thirty-06 outa his back truck window and a loftier school kid with a single shot .22lr.

However... He did crush some guy's 6 year old girl who was there to sight in her new deer rifle if you count her showtime five shot group. If not that woulda been adulterous according to shooters.



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Barbarous Long Range Precision is available in 6.5 Creedmoor

Swap the stock and/or get you a fancy screw fluted commodities or something and y'all can tell everyone it is "Custom" as you lot continue to print clover leafage groups @ 500 yards.

I've got ane in 7SAUM and I can shoot an entire box of shells into a quarter size pigsty. All I've washed to information technology is a little stock work.



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these competions are shot at 600, 800 ,900 and grand yards. the people shooting them commonly guns that cost 2000 to 5000 dollars. my point was only that a pre-fit barrel can be very accurate own a savage. 22lr riles are non allow in these types of competetions. information technology you tin not hit a 12 in target at 600 yards you are dq, and will not get to finish shooting. a 7400 rem 30/06 wouldnt even be immune to compete. i never have to worry about adulterous considering i cant notice anyone willing to crush coin against me. i dont shot savages anymore exist they can exist accurate plenty for what the op was wanting them for.


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If I wanted to get that route I'd spray paint my stock red and put a barrel sticker on the gun I take. I've had ample opportunities to purchase a 6.5 Creedmore but would rather build something.


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I am currently in the eye of my second personal Savage build. I would stay away from the E.R. Shaw barrel. I had one in .308 Win that never shot as well as I thought is should. It was OK for "hunting accuracy" but my Tikka T3 would out shoot it. I am leaning toward a Shilen for my current build, due to their other quality barrels. I have as well re-barreled rifles for other folks using Douglas and Lothar-Walther barrels. The LW was in 6.5-284 Norma. I afterwards got to shoot it, and was impressed with it as well.



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